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Post by Toronto Maple Leafs on Mar 10, 2020 9:03:37 GMT -5
That's fair, you can think it's a bad trade, I think your trade was bad, regardless of league input. If Isles thinks this trade sucks later on, he will hit me up and it will be resolved.
That's how you build relationships with people and their teams. You don't go "haha you suck, jokes on you" like a butt-face, you go back and try and even it out so that in the future there might be some give and take if one is in/out of the playoffs and are looking for a favor for a push.
It's the name of the game in real life, it's the name of the game on the site.
I unlocked all the trades so people could review and comment on old trades, but if we're just going to get back into criticism, I'll just lock them all again and continue status quo.
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Post by Toronto Maple Leafs on May 1, 2020 22:07:25 GMT -5
To  1st in 1994 (Conditional) *Conditions: Top 3 Protected, if the pick is a top 3 pick in 1994, then the Leafs acquire the next available first round pick from the Islanders, regardless if the pick originally belonged to the Islanders. you keep the 94 pick, and the pick becomes a 95 pick going to |
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Post by Colorado Avalanche on Jul 2, 2020 17:40:58 GMT -5
You can't use my trade as a comparison lmao. I overpaid for two legends (even more than I wanted to cause the league didn't like my initial offer), you're giving an 89 goalie for what you know will be two 90+ guys. When it comes to complaining about someone else's trade while your gross overpayment was put through, I find that pretty hypocritical. And also, you all know who I am, you really think I would do a trade intentionally to screw someone over and never correct that later on if it needs to be? My entire existence on ManMMA is the guy that helps people. I'm here to enjoy my site, I'm not here to destroy someone else's enjoyment. Just as you guys do trades I may find wacky, I respect and encourage you guys to do them and have fun. When is this correction happening? Can I be the recipient of said correction? |
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Post by Toronto Maple Leafs on Jul 2, 2020 17:48:49 GMT -5
It already happened. Everybody remembers the bad trade and nobody remembers that I completely turned this around
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Post by Colorado Avalanche on Jul 2, 2020 17:54:58 GMT -5
When was that?
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Post by Toronto Maple Leafs on Jul 2, 2020 17:57:31 GMT -5
Go look at the draft pick ownership page to see the history
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Post by Colorado Avalanche on Jul 2, 2020 18:00:02 GMT -5
Or just show what trade corrected this lmao
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Post by Toronto Maple Leafs on Jul 2, 2020 18:16:18 GMT -5
Or just show what trade corrected this lmao Don’t feel like it? This is a concern that you have so you can go ahead and do the research on the site yourself? |
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Post by Colorado Avalanche on Jul 2, 2020 19:21:03 GMT -5
I will look tomorrow at work I guess
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Post by Detroit Red Wings on Jul 2, 2020 19:38:50 GMT -5
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Post by Toronto Maple Leafs on Jul 2, 2020 19:46:59 GMT -5
1st 1994  traded to , conditional then dealt to  , condition met, returned to , who then traded it to  It was Hejduk 88, who was dealt to Washington for Guerin 89 and Rolston 85 to Islanders. Because the pick was returned, it was the following year's pick sent to instead, which ended up being: Marc Savard 88 F So, the whole turn becomes: Mike Richter at the time 89 G 9 YR Bill Guerin 89 F billion years left Brian Rolston 85 F billion years left Jimmy Carson 83 F 2nd round pick this year for Paul Kariya 92 F Marc Savard 88 F And keep in mind, no one expected Islanders to be finishing bottom of the league with this lineup: Top 2 lines: Hull 94 - Guerin 89 - LaFontaine 92 Granato 86 - Sweeney 84 - Rolston 85 Ellett 83 - Weinrich 82 Richter 89 |
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Post by Colorado Avalanche on Jul 3, 2020 7:33:55 GMT -5
1st 1994 traded to , conditional then dealt to , condition met, returned to , who then traded it to It was Hejduk 88, who was dealt to Washington for Guerin 89 and Rolston 85 to Islanders. Because the pick was returned, it was the following year's pick sent to instead, which ended up being: Marc Savard 88 F So, the whole turn becomes: Mike Richter at the time 89 G 9 YR Bill Guerin 89 F billion years left Brian Rolston 85 F billion years left Jimmy Carson 83 F 2nd round pick this year for Paul Kariya 92 F Marc Savard 88 F And keep in mind, no one expected Islanders to be finishing bottom of the league with this lineup: Top 2 lines: Hull 94 - Guerin 89 - LaFontaine 92 Granato 86 - Sweeney 84 - Rolston 85 Ellett 83 - Weinrich 82 Richter 89 That makes zero sense. The 1994 pick was Isles pick. It's irrelevant to the trade now because it was conditional and his 1995 pick was moved because of said conditions. That 1994 pick being traded to Washington has no relevance to this deal. Isles traded Kariya and Savard for Richter. That's the trade and we all said it was a bad trade from the beginning. Not to mention, Isles best players at the time of this trade were: Brett B. Hull 94 (A2) F 14 YR Pat LaFontaine 92 (C) F 6 YR Tony Granato 86 F 9 YR Bob Sweeney 84 F 9 YR Steve Konowalchuk 83 F 14 YR Pat Peake 83 F 6 YR Eric Weinrich 82 (A1) D 14 YR They had a solid first line, a below average second line and an abysmal third and fourth line. He had zero defence besides Weinrich and a goalie in Richter who wasn't able to do much with the lackluster d core in front of him. |
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Post by Colorado Avalanche on Jul 3, 2020 7:39:36 GMT -5
Completely forgot that part of it. Also, Islanders is run by a reputable member, doing the things he wants to do to build team America (world police?) Also, I think it's time that we know who these members are. We know Whalers is Detroit Kings is Buffalo Chicago is New Jersey Montreal is ? (I'm sure somebody knows who and I'd assume it's St. Louis) Isles is ?? Only one I got zero idea who runs them. I'd assume Justin |
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Post by Toronto Maple Leafs on Jul 3, 2020 7:54:13 GMT -5
It matters because i allowed him to condition the pick. Its all relevant. When the pick came up he elected to keep it and defer to following season so he could make that trade instead. A trade that further benefited his team and should have strengthened to therefore weaken the pick and also weakening the pick by making it a weaker draft year. All of this counts. Whether you understand this or not doesn’t matter to me.
Also no justin and me and austin are not trump.
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Post by Colorado Avalanche on Jul 3, 2020 8:02:15 GMT -5
It matters because i allowed him to condition the pick. Its all relevant. When the pick came up he elected to keep it and defer to following season so he could make that trade instead. A trade that further benefited his team and should have strengthened to therefore weaken the pick and also weakening the pick by making it a weaker draft year. All of this counts. Whether you understand this or not doesn’t matter to me. Also no justin and me and austin are not trump. Yes condition the pick for a later pick. It's not like it was a deal where he was trading the 1994 1st AND 1995 1st but there was a condition where if it was a top 3 pick he keeps the 1994 1st. The condition meant the picks were swapped, essentially trading the 1994 1st for the 1995 1st. You didn't allow him to keep the pick, it was a condition that resulted in another pick being moved. And even if you want to include that trade (which is shouldn't be) then Isles moved Kariya, Savard and Hedjuk for that sad cluster of players. |
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