CHI-NYR

[XX - Former Blackhawks - XX]

To: CHI
20 Sergei Zubov 89 D 19 YR
24 Mike Richter 89 G 13 YR
31 Mike Gartner 91 F 8 YR

To: NYR
25 Ed Belfour 93 G 17 YR
33 Doug Wilson 85 D 3 YR
27 Steve Thomas 83 F 14 YR
'92 1st Round Pick

[XX - Former Blackhawks - XX]

Toronto Maple Leafs Florida Panthers

[Toronto Maple Leafs]

I'll do the Justin thing here:

Florida Panthers has had a chance to look around and knows what he is doing?

He knows overalls are static, he knows the numbers are not contracts, but years until retirement, and he knows the overall scale - things like that, yes?

[XX - Kruze - XX]

Dec 14, 2019 17:10:57 GMT -5 Toronto Maple Leafs said:

I'll do the Justin thing here:

Florida Panthers has had a chance to look around and knows what he is doing?

He knows overalls are static, he knows the numbers are not contracts, but years until retirement, and he knows the overall scale - things like that, yes?

I'm 99.9% certain this deal is purely for Belfour to get Belfour. This one isn't quite as blatantly one-sided as the Francis deal was. I'd say it's passable, despite Wilson only having 3 yrs left, but JUST barely.

[Toronto Maple Leafs]

oh i agree just need to make sure

[Detroit Red Wings]

Dec 14, 2019 17:21:34 GMT -5 XX - Kruze - XX said:

Dec 14, 2019 17:10:57 GMT -5 Toronto Maple Leafs said:

I'll do the Justin thing here:

Florida Panthers has had a chance to look around and knows what he is doing?

He knows overalls are static, he knows the numbers are not contracts, but years until retirement, and he knows the overall scale - things like that, yes?

I'm 99.9% certain this deal is purely for Belfour to get Belfour. This one isn't quite as blatantly one-sided as the Francis deal was. I'd say it's passable, despite Wilson only having 3 yrs left, but JUST barely.

I agree, Belfour is the number four goalie on the site or something right now, no? So I feel he's gaining more than just what shows up on paper.

[Toronto Maple Leafs]

Its not about belfour its about the zubov part

[XX - Kruze - XX]

Dec 14, 2019 17:32:22 GMT -5 Toronto Maple Leafs said:

Its not about belfour its about the zubov part

What about the Zubov part? Belfour's YL & Zubov's YL are virtually equal, as are Richter's & Thomas's... It's moreso between Gartner & Wilson's YL is where any issue for me comes in.

[Detroit Red Wings]

Dec 14, 2019 17:41:29 GMT -5 XX - Kruze - XX said:

Dec 14, 2019 17:32:22 GMT -5 Toronto Maple Leafs said:

Its not about belfour its about the zubov part

What about the Zubov part? Belfour's YL & Zubov's YL are virtually equal, as are Richter's & Thomas's... It's moreso between Gartner & Wilson's YL is where any issue for me comes in.

I believe he's talking about the Zubov for Wilson specifically.

[XX - Kruze - XX]

Dec 14, 2019 17:43:10 GMT -5 Detroit Red Wings said:

Dec 14, 2019 17:41:29 GMT -5 XX - Kruze - XX said:

What about the Zubov part? Belfour's YL & Zubov's YL are virtually equal, as are Richter's & Thomas's... It's moreso between Gartner & Wilson's YL is where any issue for me comes in.

I believe he's talking about the Zubov for Wilson specifically.

That's not a big deal considering the YL & overalls. Honestly, I don't even see the need for Gartner to be in there at all.

[Detroit Red Wings]

Dec 14, 2019 17:47:56 GMT -5 XX - Kruze - XX said:

Dec 14, 2019 17:43:10 GMT -5 Detroit Red Wings said:

I believe he's talking about the Zubov for Wilson specifically.

That's not a big deal considering the YL & overalls. Honestly, I don't even see the need for Gartner to be in there at all.

I feel like it's a high price to pay, but Belfour, like we said, is a top 5 goalie in the league right now. What is Gartner? Taking Overall and YR in account, I think he's just barely in the top 20 forwards. 19th most valuable in my book.

[XX - Kruze - XX]

Dec 14, 2019 17:52:12 GMT -5 Detroit Red Wings said:

Dec 14, 2019 17:47:56 GMT -5 XX - Kruze - XX said:

That's not a big deal considering the YL & overalls. Honestly, I don't even see the need for Gartner to be in there at all.

I feel like it's a high price to pay, but Belfour, like we said, is a top 5 goalie in the league right now. What is Gartner? Taking Overall and YR in account, I think he's just barely in the top 20 forwards. 19th most valuable in my book.

Hence not having a huge objection to him being in there really... It just seems like a bit of overkill giving up 2 89s & a 91 for basically only Belfour.

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This trade is one of the worst trades I have ever seen on one of these. Reject this thing

[Detroit Red Wings]

Lol wut

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Dec 14, 2019 18:07:41 GMT -5 Detroit Red Wings said:

Lol wut

wut?? Yes this is a horrible trade!!! But I will take 3 good players for Broduer if this is the going rate for a 93 I wonder what Broduer at 95 can get me